How has Facebook replaced MySpace


Leave the archive and display this page in the standard design: Why did Facebook succeed and MySpace failed?


I thought about it for a moment on the bus today and I couldn't think of an answer so spontaneously.


Myspace also has friend lists and opportunities to network virtually ...

Because MySpace was just crappy and definitely millions of people would have died of eye cancer, it would have established itself as FB ^^

MySpace is / was hipster rubbish.

Facebook can also be used by people without extravagance.

All the myspace pages I know look absolutely horrible, clicked together for no reason. A misery.

I thought about it for a moment on the bus today and I couldn't think of an answer so spontaneously.
Because you are German and not familiar with American developments. I feel like you.
The decision whether Facebook or MySpace would prevail had been made before both sides became popular here. Because even then, Facebook had so many more members than MySpace. What made that happen ...

Because back then there was no 6-core to display a MySpace page smoothly.

The thread just reminded me that I should log in again.
Just done and seen that everything is mixed up or Opera has a problem with the display.
I just deleted my account as a result, no more nerves for that.
Because of that, I'm not opening a Facebook account now. :)

Hm, probably because of the 'I like' button from FB.

The right question would be, how long will Facebook have success?
Facebook will end up just like any other project, it will eventually be replaced by something better or just newer. Then nobody comes up with the idea of ​​a market value of 70 billion.

In addition, you don't have to think complicated at all to find simple answers: As a user, a single portal where everything is collected is more practical. Why should one participate in 20 networks? As long as the mass doesn't move any further, it will be just like that.
Facebook is not that much friendlier as a user either, it is even very penetrating if you don't keep texting; alternatively e-mail or telephone number stored, one is bothered with each login but "to secure". Only: This data is of no concern to Facebook, but there is also no way to permanently reject it (...)
In addition, if one chooses an alternative application, one cannot rule out that one wants to completely block the data, a part is always released (...)
Oh yes, and there was just a recent security breach that applications can cause to reveal the password.

In the beginning, Myspace did not establish itself as a social network, but above all as a platform for musicians.

With the success of Facebook, of course, the idea came up to want to copy the concept in order to get a piece of the cake. The problem then lies in the fact that the Internet in general and social networks in particular have a tendency towards monopoly formation.

The critical mass is what makes success and leads to stronger growth, since social networks (but also other services such as instant messaging) are characterized by becoming more interesting the more people are there. For the German area MeinVZ had z. B. also probably a critical size, whereby the lack of internationality may have become a problem.

Myspace should perhaps have concentrated more on music instead of neglecting it. In the end, the development went very quickly in the direction that YouTube was used to advertise music and Facebook was used for social marketing (which, by the way, offers much better functions for this).

BTW: What is also interesting about the tendency towards monopoly formation is that in the rarest of cases the first idea is successful, but rather a later implementation. Which service develops monopoly-like tendencies here often seems to happen almost by chance (x factors are included, and why exactly service a but not service b first reaches a critical size seems to be almost impossible to identify more precisely in most cases).

Yes, I think some conclusive answers have already been given here.
It will also be very exciting to see how Google's new Google+ network will develop. Until now (https://plus.google.com) it was only open to a small group of users.

The development of MySpace is impressive. In the last few years and months they have laid off massive numbers of employees and now the company that was once bought for 580 million US dollars has allegedly been sold for 35 million US dollars (http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518 , 771461.00.html). : D

Because back then there was no 6-core to display a MySpace page smoothly.

! ; D; D; D

every fucking page was so exaggerated ... overloaded!

It will also be very exciting to see how Google's new Google+ network will develop.
Find this development actually quite interesting, especially since Google apparently wants to score points this time against the background of a search engine by providing the user with information (or interesting blogs, articles, websites) without making a targeted request. Possibly very interesting for info junkies (but not necessarily for the general public).

the myspace website just sucks. overloaded, confusing, lame, ugly. who surfs this voluntarily?

but myspace was already there in 2003 when facebook was launched!


I believe other factors are decisive for the success / failure than those mentioned here so far.



How big is the role that chance plays? Or better: the right time and the right place

Initially, Myspace did not establish itself as a social network, but primarily as a platform for musicians.

Although it still has a lot of importance in that area. At least I hardly know a band that doesn't have a Myspace page, especially with smaller bands that is part of it.

The combination of some information about the band and some of the songs / videos included is also relatively unique. Afaik is not possible with Facebook alone and YouTube is also restricted.

Although it still has a lot of importance in that area. At least I hardly know a band that doesn't have a Myspace page, especially with smaller bands that is part of it.

The combination of some information about the band and some of the songs / videos included is also relatively unique. Afaik is not possible with Facebook alone and YouTube is also restricted.


surely it is possible!

Is created in 5 minutes

MySpace was just shit, a confusing site for pseudo-creative self-proclaimed "artists" and hipsters.

Presumably it is due to usability. At least FB wasn't as overloaded at the beginning as Myspace was back then. On the other hand, it is of course 99% luck or bad luck.

I don't really know MySpace, but find Facebook quite confusing if you were used to the VZ networks; I found them - made better in terms of presentation. Unfortunately they are also dying out.

MySpace was / is the GeoCities of social networks.
At least that's my impression after looking at 2-4 MySpace sites over the years.

I was first on MySpace back then, around 2004. I hadn't heard from Facebook then. Then I switched because Facebook just seemed tidier and the buddies gradually switched there too. I permanently deleted my MySpace account about a year ago. Just like the localists and StudiVZ. Facebook is just enough. I like the design and the rest of the buddies (musicians, students, etc.) are there too.

Myspace pages always looked like a bird shit on a website. ;)

But for listening to songs by bands, it's very practical.

But I need Facebook even less.

By the way, Myspace has now changed hands for $ 35 million. Newscorp, which also includes Fox, made a loss of around $ 545 million just by buying and selling the platform.

The new owner is Specific Media is a web company and wants to revive the platform with Justin Timberlake as the new face of MySpace.

In fact, it's a pretty good deal for Newscorp in my opinion. The website was never worth the original $ 580million IMO.

Well, old sacks like Murdoch should just stay away from modern things that they have no idea about. : biggrin: But greed is known to make you blind and arrogant.

And there I have to link another SPON article: Four ways to lose all friends (http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,771283,00.html)
The conclusion is spot on. "When social networks come to a standstill, only death comes."
The only question now is how much longer can MySpace last.

Defacto it's already dead, just like all the VZ stuff.

I'm still in there, but I never go in ^^
I think it's good that bands have their "main websites" there, even if that irritates me.

I've already asked myself the question. But since I don't know either network (only have one fake account with WKW, which is very popular here in the southwest) I can't answer them.

The right question would be, how long will Facebook have success?
Facebook will end up just like any other project, it will eventually be replaced by something better or just newer. Then nobody comes up with the idea of ​​a market value of 70 billion.
A store with 690 million active users will not go away anytime soon. : wink:

Kind regards
Rooter

I doubt that FB has 690 million ACTIVE (!!!) users :)

Well, supposedly, these Facebook user counts only count those who have logged in at least once in the last 30 days. Therefore I assume that it is the active ones. Of course, double accounts and such can still have been counted if they are all used frequently.

Yesterday such a hipster wanted to convert me to google +, which is supposed to be the new Facebook. I hadn't even heard of ^^ before

anns send me the invitation;)


btw does anyone have any invitations?

anns send me the invitation;)


btw does anyone have any invitations?
Just go to the site and register. Don't need an invitation.

So here you can't do it without an invitation. And even if you had one:

Have you already received an invitation? At the moment our capacities are full. Please try again shortly.

Wow, I would not have thought that the Google servers would go on their knees: eek:

https://plus.google.com/up/start/?continue=https://plus.google.com/&type=st&gpcaz=547f7f26
Try the link. I could register immediately.

The same happens, according to golem google has changed something so that trickery is no longer possible.

What added value do you see for Facebook? That you can sort all contacts into these circles again?

http://250kb.de/u/110701/j/5DBsfGNNragN.jpg

The same happens, according to golem google has changed something so that trickery is no longer possible.
So I never got an invitation and I see these pages.
Maybe it's because I already have a Google account.

So I never got an invitation and I see these pages.
Maybe it's because I already have a Google account.

Since I have already entered my account details;) After that we couldn't go any further.

but you won't get any further; )

I think the success of Facebook and the problem of MySpace can be found in the presentation of the profile pages alone. At MySpace, everything seems very isolated due to the customizable design and the lack of a global pin board. In addition, Facebook is more inviting to gossip and that is probably the reason why many people find it so fascinating. You always find somehow new, exclusive information from interesting people who are otherwise difficult to get at. The inhibition threshold when it comes to posting is quite low, because there is only one whole or none at all. Person XY shouldn't know this or that, but hey, this way I get a few likes and attention! Typical phenomenon on the Internet.

Incidentally, I am familiar with the function to restrict the reading rights of certain people to my profile. Just don't use anyone. Google has already solved this much smarter, because the circles literally impose themselves on you. Presumably, however, that will never really be able to stand up to Facebook, precisely because not so much information accidentally gets into circulation and you often worry about where and what exactly you post. You are constantly confronted with it through the circles.

But you can't really judge that clearly anyway. It will be seen whether a higher level of privacy or more information is more important to users. But I suspect the latter.

I don't really like the design of Facebook either ...

the page itself is quite confusing with questionable color choice and lots of edges and corners!


I think a simpler, slimmer and rounder design would be much more pleasant

Imo after a short period of familiarization, Facebook is quite clear, especially compared to MySpace.

the page itself is quite confusing with questionable color choice and lots of edges and corners!

The clarity of the settings is not particularly good, yes, but the design is otherwise perfectly fine, imho. The graphic metaphors of the icons are pretty clear and the rest of the design is just, well, blue and matte. It can't get much simpler than that. The three panels could certainly be reduced to two, but you would have to scroll more often.

That's grumbling at a high level if you look at a run-of-the-mill page on MySpace.

might be ; )


But I also understand something of that and I think I could objectively design the site more visually appealing and more intuitive

might be ; )


But I also understand something of that and I think I could objectively make the page more visually appealing and more intuitive

I dare to doubt that.
The scope that is offered by Facebook is linked to a high degree of user-friendliness. It is the queen of intuitive operation. The metaphorical space does not actually exist on this page. So when you switch from your profile page to your inbox, you are not entering a new room. The information within the page only changes to a small extent, so that you never have the feeling that you are overwhelmed with what you see. The developers have managed to hide the complexity and give the user the feeling of always having full control over his functions and network.

Information can be brought to the user in many different ways. The wall has received an entry from a contact, the message can end up in the inbox from one or more, a comment under a photo, you receive a message on your Facebook email, a friend request, a photo of you has been flagged, You were invited......
To present this mass of information to the user in an acceptable manner is a mammoth task and certainly not easy to solve. Facebook has some weaknesses in many other areas.
So when you write: but I also understand something about that, then I ask myself, yes what?

I think I could objectively make the site more visually appealing. Regardless of your skills, I don't think so. Unless you know an answer to the question; What does an objectively appealing design look like for 500 million users?

make it more intuitive
Now you dream

I would probably put a question mark on that, FB certainly also has 2-3 people who think about something like that. Just because person A might find it or would make it easier or more intuitive, person B must not be too stupid and fail in the implementation. From this point of view, FB imo is very far ahead.

And because FB is so simple and intuitive, there are always mass parties. Either everyone is too stupid or intuitively looks different. : rolleyes:

Yes, Facebook is to blame for some people's stupidity.

And because FB is so simple and intuitive, there are always mass parties. Either everyone is too stupid or intuitively looks different. : rolleyes:
So that is unfortunately really due to the stupidity of the users. You can't really miss such a hook.

And because FB is so simple and intuitive, there are always mass parties. Either everyone is too stupid or intuitively looks different. : rolleyes:

Well, it's always a bit exaggerated. FB has been around for ages and a 16 year old was too stupid and ticked the wrong box. And in the meantime they have even changed the default settings when you open a new group / event.

It is the queen of intuitive operation.
1. look at fb
2. look at google plus
3. fap like crazy

So to call fb the "queen of intuitive operation" is pretty much embellished. there are too many construction sites (message handling, integration of applications, e.g. missing features such as searching through the bulletin board, settings confusing in x submenus (!); not clear whether you are being redirected to other pages, the photo album handling is also lousy etc. etc.).

But it's always better than myspace (by a factor of 1000 or so).myspace is a site that has simply slept through the past 10 years.

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2. look at google plus



I would like to! : mad:

But hey. Finally something comparable with a similarly large scope. Then it is high time to start hacking on FB. Especially since Google had many modules out there long before the launch of g + and was able to let them mature. Now just pack it in a large application and the Facebook killer is ready. * yay *

It has always been like that. Dominions are given up and the kings lose their heads. There is general uncertainty in the yard that can only be cleared up by swarm intelligence.

I'm curious what meinvz and co is doing to bring the users back to their social network ... had recently read somewhere ... that Meinvz and Co want to invest massively in Infopost to get the users to show up there again

do you think something works?



I'm curious what meinvz and co is doing to bring the users back to their social network ... had recently read somewhere ... that Meinvz and Co want to invest massively in Infopost to get the users to show up there again

do you think something works?

No, the VZ networks had their chance.

I see it that way too, although the Kapf was decided from the start

But the success of Facebook was anything but certain. In between they also had a phase where the demand seemed to be satisfied.

Above all, Facebook has technically done a number of things that were years ahead of the competition. For example, hooking up third-party applications and settling them with microtransactions (see Farmville from Zynga).

The "Like" button was brilliant too: very easy to integrate for any website developer, and suddenly creates a connection between Facebook and the rest of the internet.

The amalgamation of e-mail, SMS and chat was also clever. In doing so, they have created a de facto standard for themselves in one fell swoop.

Like any good software company, they offer something to both private customers and commercial customers. Many social networks have never managed the latter.

I'm curious what meinvz and co is doing to bring the users back to their social network ... had recently read somewhere ... that Meinvz and Co want to invest massively in Infopost to get the users to show up there again

do you think something works?

I had heard rumors - months ago - that the owners wanted to sell the VZ networks as quickly as possible in order to earn some more money before interest waned even more.

Sorry for OT;)

I can't imagine anyone else being that stupid and buying them.

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